Rediscovering Donna: The journey back to her true self

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Welcome to fierce woman rising. The podcast

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become the next fierce woman rising. Welcome to another

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episode of fierce woman rising today I am really really excited

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to share this story with you. I have the beautiful Donna with me

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today. And Donna is a 60 year old mother of three with one

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grandchild that she is lucky enough to have living with her

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along with her daughter and her daughter's partner, which is

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just amazing. She is a Divi survivor. She is brand new to

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this business, and she is on a mission to rediscover her inner

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warrior, heal past traumas and re emerge as the confident and

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fun loving woman that she knows she is deep inside. But you

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know, sometimes just when life takes over, yeah, we can forget

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who we are at our absolute core. What started as a side hustle to

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Donner to bring in a little bit of extra income to help the

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family coffers has turned into something so much more. And I'm

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really really excited to share this story with you. It is so

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inspirational. It is so moving. And Donna, I'm so grateful to

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have you here. Thank you. Thanks, Claire for having me.

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Actually. Yeah, and your first podcast. Isn't that exciting?

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Let's elaborate a little bit on that. Tell us tell us and

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everyone listening a little bit more about yourself.

Donna Karpeles: 00:02:26

Okay, so you've given the basic overall for me.

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But yeah, I've come to a stage in my life where I thought I'm

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just doing the day to day, you know, I am working in a normal

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nine to five job coming home doing to sitting on the lounge

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by myself virtually. And yeah. My husband comes in later has

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he's to go straight back to bed because he's up so early. My

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daughter gets home, she's rushing around with a, you know,

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her little boy and yeah, it just feels like I don't I lost my

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identity. I lost who I was really, you know? Yeah. When

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you've been a when you're as old as me, I suppose. And you've

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been through the family thing. You've got the emptiness thing

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going on my husband, I had a really good thing going on, you

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know, she asked us to and then you know, circumstances happen.

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So Melissa moved back and, you know, things have sort of like,

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gone back. I don't know, my house isn't as tidy as it used

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to be. But that but that's,

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I was having a little one there isn't it and

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other people and

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and, and I saw that I did I lost myself. And I

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was feeling pretty, pretty flat. So I went to a naturopath and

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she told me that you know, I had a few issues there and she said,

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Oh, by the way, you know, do you want to try some water and I

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weren't sure what sort of water is you know, thinking it's

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coming out of one of those plastic things? Yeah, you know

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the screen.

Claire Markwick: 00:04:07

Yeah, yeah. The bubble of things. Yeah.

Donna Karpeles: 00:04:11

Yeah. They can i Okay, whatever. Anyway, she goes

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no, no, you just try it and see what you think. Anyway, she lent

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me a two liter glass bottle you know that get the big apple

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juice things it well she filled it up and she said you know,

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just whenever you want just come in back through the back door

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and you know, just fill it up. Okay. So that was my start with

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kangen water. Oh my goodness me now. We're seriously when I

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started with the water. I was at eight kilos and feeling really

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fat, frumpy. Just really not liking myself. I was eating

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chocolates or sweets and I was drinking alcohol because they

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were my crutches that's what leaning on, just so that I could

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feel something, I wasn't feeling anything. So anyway, started

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with the water. And within three or four days, I suppose I

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started to notice, notice to change my gut because I have a

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terrible gut from all surgeries from previous history with

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domestic violence. So I could never eat anything or drink

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anything. I say the doctor, oh, my god, I just have a glass of

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water. And my gut goes moody. You know, Windy City, you know,

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it, attic arts, you know, out of the basement sort of thing. And

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my husband would always say, Oh, you have to, you know, forgive

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her. She hasn't got a spleen, blah, blah, blah. And you know

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that, that really started to grate on me. And it didn't make

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me feel any better. But during the water, I noticed that my gut

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had really settled down amazingly. And that I started

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losing weight within the first week of having it, I'd lost a

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kilo. I hadn't changed my diet. And anyway, and I'd lost the

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kilos. And I thought, now I am 76 kilos. So I'm pretty happy.

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And mind you, I didn't start this until March the water. And

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then I got speak to me. And I said, Okay, you have to give me

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more information on this water.

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What is this magic stuff?

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What is it? I don't need, I need it. I really

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need it. But anyway, she said, Look, I'll send you a webinar,

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you know, and it was on a master class, which we are having on

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the 28th and 29th of September, two master class days that we're

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having, which will be awesome. I watched one of these. And as

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soon as I finished I message Leah. And I said, Well, yeah, I

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mean, I want I'm all in let me go. Come on. I want to do this

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business.

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Can I stop you there for one second, and let's

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just let's just recap. Because there's so much of what you've

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just shared that it's just like, Ah, this I reckon there's so

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much that people would relate with. So you're, you're you're a

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woman in your 60s, who is working a job to make ends meet,

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pay the mortgage, all that sort of stuff and feeling in this

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monotony. And these Groundhog Day, and this, like over and

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over every freaking day is the same. I'm just doing the same

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thing every day. And then then your circumstances change you

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have your daughter and her family move in as well. Because

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you're a mom, you want to help her out, obviously. And then

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suddenly your space that you've created, even though your normal

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that you've created, even though it's not. It wasn't necessarily

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lighting you up here, it was the Groundhog Day, it's disrupted,

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and they're suddenly left going well, what the essentially, you

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know, like, what the hell like, where do I fit? What am I now

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like, what, and you're putting on weight and you're feeling

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Blair, so you go to a naturopath? I think you know is

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what so many. So many people are starting to do now you know,

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being aware of you know, our lifestyle and the stuff that

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goes into our bodies and stuff that it might not be a case of

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going to the doctor's and popping some pills, it's like,

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Okay, let's get my body back to some kind of normal, get your

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body back to some kind of baseline, and then we can go

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from there. So, so that's kind of where we're at, you've been

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borrowing, you've been borrowing this water, you've been drinking

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this water, you've been losing weight, you've been filling your

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spark coming back and you're like, right, give me one. I want

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to get me one of these. It's just, I was like, there's just

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so much you've just shared in this space of five minutes. And

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like, I've got to just recap that That's awesome.

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Well, that's exactly what it was like, and

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then you know, the DBS that we went through, which was Denise

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Turner. She, you know, first of all, I had to go to the platform

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and I had to put down my why, you know, really, you really do

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have to think about it. Why am I why am I doing this? You know,

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my husband said oh my god Another thing you're gonna do

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and I said no, I'm serious about this. I've noticed that haven't

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you noticed that I'm losing race together? I just thought you're

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dieting or something and anyway, he just said yeah, whatever.

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wasn't too happy about it. And you know what? Where there's a

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will there's a way and will was knocking at my door kicked it

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open for me and I walked through it. So

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talk about that. Talk to me about the why

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I. So for those that aren't familiar, the DBS process when

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you're entering this business you go through, you go through

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something we call the discovery process, isn't it? And it's like

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it's like 10 questions. And it's it really helps us to identify

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what it is that we're looking for. Because so many of us

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explore opportunities like this, don't we? Because we were at a

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point where we're like, we're stuck. We've had enough. We're

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fed up and and we can talk about that, can't we, but it's

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articulating what we want instead can be hard. And that's

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what this process is all about, isn't it? So talk us through,

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talk us through your why and what you discovered through this

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discovery process.

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Like I said, Before, my why is because I've

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been doing nine to five for 44 plus years, working nine to 595,

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raising three kids working full time, and just had to refinance

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my mortgage. And it's just like, Oh, my God, it's never gonna

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stop anyway.

Claire Markwick: 00:11:02

It was supposed to happen at this stage of life.

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I was supposed to be mortgage free by now. Yeah. And

Donna Karpeles: 00:11:07

that's what my husband was saying. So I just

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said to him, Well, look, I'm gonna do this business. But my

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why is to stop working. And for my husband stopped working,

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because he's just got some health issues that are really

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not, you know, making they're making them and, you know, he's

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got your hips and he's got the arthritis coming in. He says,

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Oh, yeah. All this stuff. Oh, well would say and I'm thinking,

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yeah, you're just a black, right? That's just what you do.

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You just moan about it, don't do anything about it. But anyway, I

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went through this, this discovery process, and I

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realized that I actually have a fear of money. And money was for

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horrible people. You know, growing up in the 60s, like I

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did, people that were had money looked down on people like me

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that grew up in the suburbs of Sydney, I grew up in Fairfield.

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And yeah, people look down on us. And I You're a Westie. You

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know, all that sort of shit. You know what I mean? It's like, ah,

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anyway, I have dreams of traveling. I've always had

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dreams of traveling Claire, I, you know, I want to go to Egypt,

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I want to go and dig on a site for dinosaur bones. I want to go

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and explore. I mean, the first part of my years, you know,

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growing up in Sydney, I really didn't do anything. I suppose I

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traveled to Byron Bay, back in the hippie days. That's what I

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call my up days smoked few cones and stuff. But that's what you

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did up there. You know, you and we go surfing. That was what we

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did.

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Free, free spirited, free thinking

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lifestyle before all that baggage of exactly. And it is

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really thrust on our shoulders. Yeah. And

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I want to go well, not back to the smoking

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pot. But I want to go back to my up days of traveling,

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you want to feel like that again, you want

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to I burn and God can do and

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doing the the discovery process. That's what I

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found. I was missing, I'd lost me. And I thought it's all come

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down to not having money. And I thought I don't, I don't want to

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be the person that has money. Because then I'll lose all my

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friends. And I'll be a alternative to a nasty person.

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You know, I didn't want to do that.

Claire Markwick: 00:13:55

Yeah. Isn't it funny how our ego so I call our

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ego can keep us our ego is great. Like our our ego keeps us

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nice and safe. But it also stops us stops, that inner child stops

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that inner fire within us from coming out to the surface

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because it's like, oh, hang on a minute. If you do that, then

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it's gonna mean X, Y and Zed and then I'm not comfortable

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anymore. So I better put a whole heap of shit into your head to

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make you stop to make you not do that anymore.

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Yeah, you're not doing you're not doing your

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normal day to day stuff. So but yeah, after, like, the domestic

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violence I really sort of like I come out. I thought now I can

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beat this i did i i beat him. He's gone long out the picture.

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But when I found my husband, I sort of like relaxed and let go

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to and that fire woman as I've so now being called in It has.

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She's She disappeared, because I felt safe and someone was going

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to look after me. And I didn't need that, that drive that ego

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to go somewhere to get going. And in actual fact, I think I

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should have kept her because that's what attracted him to me

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was my fire my drive my, my wild child. And, you know, he being

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in the Army was very regimented. Me being the wild thing, I

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think, you know, it's union,

Claire Markwick: 00:15:36

opposites attract? Yeah, you've been a

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ying

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and yang. And, yeah, I just felt comfortable

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and just let it all go. And I let him control everything,

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well, not control. Well, yes, control everything, you know,

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where we live, what I can do, where I can go, you know, I had

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to sell a car because we were running out of money. And I was

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my first car that I'd ever bought brand new car, and I had

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to sell that to help, you know, pay for the mortgage or pay

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something that was done. And then I got a cheap $1,000 car to

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run around with. And, you know, this is all been happening over

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the last 25 years. So 26 years can't remember now. It's my

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life, I've been, you know, relying on something. And I this

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is what I found in the discovery process, I had let go of my

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reins and given control of my life to somebody else. And it

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was really starting to grate on me, grate on me so much that

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anxiety and depression set in and, you know, things from the

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past kept coming up, coming up. And then I kept thinking of him

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that wild child, he might, you know, leave me and it's just an

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absolute nightmare going on in my head. So I started taking the

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pills the doctor gave me to quiet me out. And that was it. I

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was lost or feelings. The only time I felt anything was when

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I'd drink alcohol. So which isn't good for your body. But

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anyway, this is in the discovery process. I found this out. And I

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had to write a letter to money and to apologize to money. And I

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thought so stupid. But I did you find it stupid, you know? Yeah.

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Anyway, I had to apologize to it because I found being in this

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business that Wow. With money. I can do things. I can travel. I

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can go on retreats. I'm going to Japan next year, for the 50th

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anniversary of the business. I am able to save money now going

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on a cruise in November. What else am I doing? Oh my god. It

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see. And this is the thing I found my wild woman since we did

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our retreat in Byron Bay. I've come back a new person and the

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water. The EU con. You know, the EU cons amazing. Can I say

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people with beside us or arthritic joints? Try it. It's

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really, really good. No, truly, you know, I think I was telling

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you about it how good it is because I've had knee

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replacement and I've got bursitis in my hip. So I have my

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econ every day and I can sleep and not have to worry about

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that. So yeah, I am. I'm totally blessed. All I can say to Leanne

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is Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for introducing me to the

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water first, or being my naturopath first, I suppose.

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Because you Natalie, and she's beautiful. She's an absolutely

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gorgeous soul. And I trusted her and, you know, I thought I had

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everybody kept saying did people tell you it was a scam?

Claire Markwick: 00:19:08

Oh, yeah. And people still do and people very

Claire Markwick: 00:19:10

close to me. You know, people very close to me and my family

Claire Markwick: 00:19:14

and you know, who have known me for a really, really long time

Claire Markwick: 00:19:18

have said some really hurtful things. And before even finding

Claire Markwick: 00:19:24

out any information whatsoever. It's just jumping to conclusions

Claire Markwick: 00:19:27

about what what this business is. And unfortunately I think

Claire Markwick: 00:19:33

that is that does come from, you know, the 70s 80s and a lot of

Claire Markwick: 00:19:38

these like total scam, Ponzi schemes, pyramid schemes,

Claire Markwick: 00:19:43

particularly in the UK where I was from and they're in a

Claire Markwick: 00:19:46

certain generation of people. There's this inbuilt fear and

Claire Markwick: 00:19:50

there's this inbuilt distrust of anything that breaks away from

Claire Markwick: 00:19:56

the norm. And so what I was saying To be doing was breaking

Claire Markwick: 00:20:01

away from the norm and doing something risky and and whilst I

Claire Markwick: 00:20:05

appreciate all of the comments and concerns come from a genuine

Claire Markwick: 00:20:10

place of love and care. What really upset me was the fact

Claire Markwick: 00:20:15

that well, you're just making assumptions and you're not doing

Claire Markwick: 00:20:18

any due diligence, you're not doing any research, you're not

Claire Markwick: 00:20:21

finding out anything and you're not trusting me. You know, I'm a

Claire Markwick: 00:20:24

42 year old woman now I'm gonna get to the for Christ's sake,

Claire Markwick: 00:20:27

you know, do you really think I'm gonna risk my professional

Claire Markwick: 00:20:30

reputation? My family's upbringing for something that is

Claire Markwick: 00:20:34

an illegal scam? I'm like, I don't think so. I'm not that

Claire Markwick: 00:20:37

frickin stupid. But yeah, so and I think, I think it's something

Claire Markwick: 00:20:42

that we've all got to, I don't want to say embrace that sounds

Claire Markwick: 00:20:45

like the wrong word. But we've almost got to, we've almost got

Claire Markwick: 00:20:49

to expect there are going to be people that are not mature

Claire Markwick: 00:20:54

enough in their thinking. And I am going to say that purposely

Claire Markwick: 00:20:57

not mature enough in their thinking to open their mind to

Claire Markwick: 00:21:00

something different to something that breaks breaks the norms.

Claire Markwick: 00:21:04

And yeah, it's up to us to then trust in ourselves enough to

Claire Markwick: 00:21:10

keep forging forward regardless. That's the way I see it.

Donna Karpeles: 00:21:15

That's right, you know, and like, my husband

Donna Karpeles: 00:21:21

got scammed, you know, with the Bitcoin so lost nearly 50 grand

Donna Karpeles: 00:21:26

in Bitcoin, which, yeah. Was, I've never told that anybody was

Donna Karpeles: 00:21:35

a bit much, you know, and I'm gonna cry now. Sorry, I'm

Claire Markwick: 00:21:44

gonna apologize.

Donna Karpeles: 00:21:48

Yeah, so doing this, and I said, it's not a

Donna Karpeles: 00:21:51

scam home, it's not. Look, you're, I'm not paying out money

Donna Karpeles: 00:21:55

for nothing. I'm actually paying out money for a water filtration

Donna Karpeles: 00:22:00

system, you know, and the water, you should look at me, I look

Donna Karpeles: 00:22:06

how much weight I've lost. And look how much healthier I'm

Donna Karpeles: 00:22:09

looking. And I'm not using the alcohol as a crutch anymore. You

Donna Karpeles: 00:22:13

know, I feel better in myself, that in itself,

Claire Markwick: 00:22:17

is worth it. And that is exactly what I said

Claire Markwick: 00:22:20

to my mom, I was like, That in itself is worth it. I'm the

Claire Markwick: 00:22:24

same, I've dropped about eight kilos, I look younger, I feel

Claire Markwick: 00:22:28

more vibrant, I feel more energetic. And that in itself is

Claire Markwick: 00:22:32

enough. Like we have rented. We've got rid of so many toxic

Claire Markwick: 00:22:36

chemicals and cleaning products and like beauty products for me

Claire Markwick: 00:22:40

in our house. Because the Ka provides it all does it all. We

Claire Markwick: 00:22:45

you know, that in itself is enough. And the fact that we can

Claire Markwick: 00:22:49

then earn ourselves an income and living more than a living we

Claire Markwick: 00:22:54

can earn a means to allow our dreams to come true from it.

Claire Markwick: 00:22:59

That's just a freaking bonus in my eyes.

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:01

Yeah. But I also love you know that within the

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:06

platform that there is all this stuff to learn about yourself.

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:11

Yes, your mindset. And oh my god, I'm doing one on money

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:15

mindset. Because I wrote the letter to money to say I'm

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:19

sorry, and forever doubting you. And now whenever I get money,

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:24

whether it might be five cents, or you know, I might pay a bill.

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:30

And I'll put on the bill I write actually write on the printed

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:34

out because I get them sent to me as emails. And I print them

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:38

out. And then I say thank you for the money. And thank you for

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:41

the service that you gave me so often, even though it's a bill

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:45

and we all go when we got a bill. But I actually think the

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:49

people that gave me that service. And you know, I always

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:55

say thank you to people in the shops or anything, it's a treat

Donna Karpeles: 00:23:59

to be grateful. And I found in other studies that I'm doing

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:04

that being grateful and thankful. You just wake up every

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:08

morning and you just say thank you. I'm alive. Yeah. You know,

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:14

and I've just since doing this with the water and this other

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:19

study that I've been doing, you know, with epigenetics and

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:23

everything like that. It's amazing how we carry our parents

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:30

thoughts with us. Because that's in your genes. And to break that

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:36

cycle, it's going to take you 21 days, you know, an inner child,

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:41

you know, you only have to say something to a child three times

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:44

and then it becomes a habit and that's what you know. And that's

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:49

actually my daughter told me that she told me that she said

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:53

Mom, do you know if you tell Roy something or allow him to do

Donna Karpeles: 00:24:56

something three times that he That's okay. And he can do that.

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:03

And she's trying to teach him all these things and he comes

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:05

grandma everyday she's knowing apparently but no, seriously,

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:11

I'm it's gonna be awesome to see what his life's like because he

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:17

he'll be one in November since like my when I got my export

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:24

machine could have made June maybe I got it in June I think

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:27

because I joined the business in May 23. And he has virtually

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:33

been on the water since then. So all his formula bottles are made

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:38

straight from the machine there's no need to boil that

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:43

water because it's just pure and students have it he's never had

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:47

a tummy upset or anything like that he's got a cold Yes. But

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:50

that's just because he started daycare but you know, and I got

Donna Karpeles: 00:25:56

my an Esper today. Oh, exciting. For everyone who doesn't

Claire Markwick: 00:26:02

know and an ESA is another product by the

Claire Markwick: 00:26:05

company that we that we align with. And it's a it's a mineral

Claire Markwick: 00:26:10

shower, essentially. So it's a unit that goes into your

Claire Markwick: 00:26:12

bathroom, and the water passes through charcoal filters and a

Claire Markwick: 00:26:16

whole heap of other magical things. I don't even understand

Claire Markwick: 00:26:19

the science I don't need to I just know it's frickin amazing.

Claire Markwick: 00:26:22

Skin hair, everything about it. You just feel a million dollars.

Claire Markwick: 00:26:28

It's like you've been in this like luxury spa every morning.

Claire Markwick: 00:26:31

It is so amazing.

Donna Karpeles: 00:26:33

You know what I I noticed that when we were

Donna Karpeles: 00:26:36

away, that everybody that has the an Esper spa, all your skin

Donna Karpeles: 00:26:42

was glowing. And I thought, I have to get this thing because I

Donna Karpeles: 00:26:49

know your glow from it, you know, inside out, but you know,

Donna Karpeles: 00:26:53

we've got the water inside and it's doing all it seems and I

Donna Karpeles: 00:26:56

just thought I saved some money. And I got the shower. Now my

Donna Karpeles: 00:27:01

husband will die when he gets home.

Claire Markwick: 00:27:06

My husband was like, What the hell is this

Claire Markwick: 00:27:09

contraption now? And I plugged mine in myself because it's all

Claire Markwick: 00:27:14

just, you know, screws in and stuff like that. And he, he

Claire Markwick: 00:27:16

turns it on. And he was like, What have you done? leaking

Claire Markwick: 00:27:22

everywhere because I hadn't tighten things up and nap and

Claire Markwick: 00:27:25

stuff like that. And it's like, Oh my God. So he goes through

Claire Markwick: 00:27:28

his shed and he gets his stuff and tightens it all up and

Claire Markwick: 00:27:30

things and he said to me the other day, he was like, you

Claire Markwick: 00:27:34

know, he's sort of admitted this the tough tradie he's like,

Claire Markwick: 00:27:38

actually, you know, skin and hair does feel pretty good with

Claire Markwick: 00:27:42

that shower. How much?

Unknown: 00:27:43

Thank you. Thank you very much tick, tick.

Claire Markwick: 00:27:47

factly

Donna Karpeles: 00:27:49

minds now do I put it into the bathroom where

Donna Karpeles: 00:27:52

my grandson has his bath? Because you know, I'd love to

Donna Karpeles: 00:27:57

see him have lovely skin everything? Or do I just be

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:00

greedy and put it in my own ensuite so

Claire Markwick: 00:28:03

to be angry as being functionally selfish.

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:07

I like that. Actually functionally selfish. I

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:10

like that. Yeah, that can be me. Yeah. Because it is all about

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:14

me. And that's what I've decided. It's I've done enough

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:18

of the everybody else thing for 40 odd years. Yeah, but it's

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:23

time for me. So yeah. And, and that's what I love about the

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:27

business. There are so many of us that have got different

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:33

stories to tell. But, you know, I thought I will. I did. I was

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:42

really hesitant to go and when, you know, cash said, Come on

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:48

join us.

Claire Markwick: 00:28:50

This is our retreat. We're just standing by

Claire Markwick: 00:28:52

Yeah.

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:53

Yeah, I went. Anyway, I said to my husband, I

Donna Karpeles: 00:28:59

got off the thing with cares. And I said to my husband, can I

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:05

can I go to a retreat and Byron and I went, hang on. I'm going

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:12

to retreat and Byron. I knew it then because he just looked at

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:16

me. But I said I'm going to retreat and Byron. It's in two

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:20

weeks time I'm booking my airfares and everything like

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:24

that. And while I was booking I went and got myself a Qantas

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:31

club card so that I could sit in the Qantas club when I travel

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:35

now because, you know, I thought I'm worth it. I can do this. I'm

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:39

a businesswoman now and that's how I am thinking of this now.

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:43

Yes, it is on the side hustle at the moment. And look, I've got

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:48

to be realistic until I actually start making sales to other

Donna Karpeles: 00:29:52

people and that I need my other income to pay my bills. to pay,

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:01

you know, mortgage and food and everything like that, so I'm not

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:04

being stupid about it. But it at the moment is a passive income.

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:09

And I actually by getting myself my Nessebar, I have now getting

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:14

a commission from that. So exactly, I'm getting money back

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:20

for buying myself something. So I think that that's just

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:25

awesome. And you know, I didn't have the money to start with IVA

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:28

Claire, I told you, I didn't have the money. So I got a loan

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:35

for it, and it is 220 bucks a month for my aid. And all I can

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:45

say it's money well spent. And you know, look, the kids are

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:48

today, they all want to do that. What is it, pay, pay, pay plus

Donna Karpeles: 00:30:54

pay? I like this

Claire Markwick: 00:30:57

zip pay type thing. Yeah. And the idea

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:04

that they're willing to do that, for what a

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:08

dress or something that they might wear once or something,

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:11

but there are a new phone

Claire Markwick: 00:31:13

or whatever. Yeah.

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:16

But I just thought, Oh, this is a laybuy

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:19

system. To me, this is what we used to have the laybuy. But you

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:23

never got the goods until you paid for it. But this way I'm,

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:27

I've done a loan. And I must say the interest is better than in a

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:30

bank. And we can get in the bank if you want to. But I am quite

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:37

happy. My daughter loves the water. My son in law loves the

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:40

water. And I know my grandson does because he just you give

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:43

him his little sippy cup, and he likes to just drink his water.

Donna Karpeles: 00:31:46

So

Claire Markwick: 00:31:47

everybody, little kids actually enjoy

Claire Markwick: 00:31:50

drinking water, you know. And that's, that's yeah, that in

Claire Markwick: 00:31:55

itself is amazing. Like, there's, there's so many things

Claire Markwick: 00:31:58

that I could pick up on, on what you've said. But I think the

Claire Markwick: 00:32:02

biggest the biggest thing that's really shone through to me, and

Claire Markwick: 00:32:05

I'll be interested to hear what listeners think as well, but the

Claire Markwick: 00:32:07

biggest thing that shone through to me is that what started as

Claire Markwick: 00:32:12

what started as something very practical and as much as or

Claire Markwick: 00:32:15

here's, here's a product that is going to help your body turned

Claire Markwick: 00:32:18

into something else practical, it's like Oh, and by the way,

Claire Markwick: 00:32:21

you can actually earn an income from it, you know, so the

Claire Markwick: 00:32:23

practical head is like, okay, tic tic, but what you found,

Claire Markwick: 00:32:27

since jumping in, is that there's actually so much more to

Claire Markwick: 00:32:32

it, and the woman that you are allowing yourself to become

Claire Markwick: 00:32:36

because of it is, you know, going back to the you that you

Claire Markwick: 00:32:41

knew way before way back in the day before life happened before

Claire Markwick: 00:32:48

layers of crap in and just general adulthood and

Claire Markwick: 00:32:52

responsibilities and pressures and past experiences and

Claire Markwick: 00:32:56

memories and people's opinions and your beliefs about yourself

Claire Markwick: 00:33:00

and your the self talk before all that shit piled up. You

Claire Markwick: 00:33:04

know, you're this is now allowing you to crack through

Claire Markwick: 00:33:07

all of that. Yeah. Now, I want you to come back out again, how

Claire Markwick: 00:33:11

many businesses do that?

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:15

And I've worked in quite a few businesses,

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:19

multinational companies that spruik all this love and you

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:23

know, all these pillars of whatever they want to call them.

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:27

And don't actually practice it.

Claire Markwick: 00:33:31

tick box, isn't it corporate? tickbox

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:34

Yeah, and they don't you know, and I've spoke

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:36

to other people that are the same and they're just going oh,

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:40

wish I had your guts. And I said, Well, I didn't have any.

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:43

It's just that after I did the my discovery process and if

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:49

there's something that I'm not sure on now, I can go back to

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:52

that or talk to one of you girls and yeah, I look I am absolutely

Donna Karpeles: 00:33:59

beaming. I haven't felt this good or alive in years and I

Donna Karpeles: 00:34:04

just want to say thank you everybody. Because you allowed

Donna Karpeles: 00:34:10

me to come out of my I don't know what it was my depression,

Donna Karpeles: 00:34:16

my anxiety hibernation hearing. Yep. And you know, I would hide

Donna Karpeles: 00:34:22

under frumpy clothes. I have got some really frumpy ship my

Donna Karpeles: 00:34:26

cupboard which I don't know if you could see but this is a new

Donna Karpeles: 00:34:30

dress that I've got on I

Claire Markwick: 00:34:32

just beautiful, colorful, vibrant,

Donna Karpeles: 00:34:36

energetic, and that's just how I am this is

Donna Karpeles: 00:34:39

what my husband fell in love with. And he said to me, Oh, you

Donna Karpeles: 00:34:45

look good. Like isn't that

Claire Markwick: 00:34:52

just freaking amazing? Like we are in a if we

Claire Markwick: 00:34:55

are in a funk and I was messaging someone about this

Claire Markwick: 00:34:58

just this morning if we are in a funk, we have got to get

Claire Markwick: 00:35:02

ourselves out of that funk. First, we have got to love

Claire Markwick: 00:35:05

ourselves before others can love us, we have got to give to

Claire Markwick: 00:35:09

ourselves before others can give to us. We've got to be trust

Claire Markwick: 00:35:13

ourselves before others can trust us. It always starts with

Claire Markwick: 00:35:17

us, doesn't it? And so if there's something that we want,

Claire Markwick: 00:35:21

that we don't feel we're getting it is feedback to have a look at

Claire Markwick: 00:35:25

how we're not giving it to ourselves. So now you're out of

Claire Markwick: 00:35:28

that funk, you're coming out of the other side of you're hiding

Claire Markwick: 00:35:32

and you're loving yourself, you're loving on yourself, your

Claire Markwick: 00:35:35

husband can see you again. How amazing is that?

Donna Karpeles: 00:35:38

No. And that and that also, like attracts like?

Donna Karpeles: 00:35:44

Yep. So if I'm loving myself, he's gonna love me. And it's,

Donna Karpeles: 00:35:50

it's like with everything, and I just can't thank this business

Donna Karpeles: 00:35:57

enough for helping me, you know, pull me out. And make me

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:01

actually think and question my Why Why am I doing this? Why do

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:06

I allow myself to beat up on myself? You know, for things

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:11

that I had, you know, I couldn't control or stop a person from

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:17

doing what they did to me all those years ago. If I tried to

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:22

tell anybody, he would threaten to go after them and hurt them.

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:27

So I had to get out of that situation myself. And that's

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:32

where that that enemy came out again. And I was doing that for

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:37

five years on my own. And then I, like I said, met my husband,

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:41

and he fell in love with that. And she went and hid again. But

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:45

she's coming back out. And she's coming out with a vengeance. So

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:48

the the Yeah, I am totally blessed. I have to say I am. I'm

Donna Karpeles: 00:36:54

not a religious person, but I do believe there's gods. Yep.

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:02

There's a higher beam

Claire Markwick: 00:37:03

and Aryans, you know, oversee, you know,

Claire Markwick: 00:37:07

whatever you want to call them. There's people that look out for

Claire Markwick: 00:37:09

us. Yeah, well,

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:11

maybe the vibrations. I've got, I'm on

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:14

that higher vibration now. So I'm going to attract that to me.

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:18

And I think in this business that also teaches that, you

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:23

know, and I think I'm hearing it from one spot, now I'm hearing

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:28

it from another spot. So it can't be woowoo or anything like

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:32

that. And I've been doing my other training now, this will be

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:35

my third year, which has really helped me to come out. But the

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:38

breakaway for me was the retreat. Yeah. You know, meeting

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:43

or everybody face to face able to hug people. And, you know, I

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:48

picked Joanne up from Byron Bay. And within 10 minutes of driving

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:53

in the car, it was like, we're all buddies. You know, like, she

Donna Karpeles: 00:37:56

was my sister from another mother. And we, and that's the

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:01

thing, this this community that we're in, it's a beautiful

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:05

community. And it's, it's not about money, or Oh, look at me,

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:12

I'm, you know, earning X amount of dollars, because there was

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:15

lots of different people in that group. There was people like me

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:19

newbies, people like you that have been in there for a little

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:21

bit. But nobody worries about that. Everybody's there to help

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:27

everybody else up. And it doesn't matter if it's within

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:30

the business side of things. It's personal. It's

Claire Markwick: 00:38:34

health. Yeah, anything in our stuff. Yeah.

Claire Markwick: 00:38:38

Yeah,

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:38

you know, there is always someone there to

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:42

listen. And because we've got people, not only women, there's

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:46

men in there as well. And, you know, there is always someone

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:51

there that can help you. And I am totally blessed to to be

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:55

within this business. And I thank you, Claire for letting me

Donna Karpeles: 00:38:58

talk today.

Claire Markwick: 00:39:00

It's been an absolute honor. I was just gonna

Claire Markwick: 00:39:02

I was gonna ask you one final thing. If there are, if there

Claire Markwick: 00:39:06

are women listening to this, if they're ananas listening to this

Claire Markwick: 00:39:09

thinking to themselves are you know, I'm too old for this. My

Claire Markwick: 00:39:13

life is set now. I couldn't I there's no way I could do this.

Claire Markwick: 00:39:17

What would be your advice to them?

Donna Karpeles: 00:39:21

My advice? Well, actually, there's a woman in the

Donna Karpeles: 00:39:26

business who's 72. And she is thriving. I would don't listen

Donna Karpeles: 00:39:34

to what your husband says. Because or your partner. Let's

Donna Karpeles: 00:39:38

just don't listen to your partner. Listen to your inner

Donna Karpeles: 00:39:41

self truly. If it feels right for you, and you've never had

Donna Karpeles: 00:39:48

it. How would you put it? If you If you doubt yourself, you'll

Donna Karpeles: 00:39:54

keep on doubting yourself and you're being stuck. Why if you

Donna Karpeles: 00:39:59

You let other people tell you how to live. And you keep

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:04

listening to the naysayers in your life, you'll be stuck where

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:07

you are, which is what I did. Because it was easy to be that

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:11

way and knowing what's going to happen rather than jumping out

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:15

which I did jump full feet in, just jump in, go for it. Be that

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:20

young teenager again, and go for it. And look. I actually was

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:27

talking to some people yesterday, I went to the Henty

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:29

Field Day. And I had some conversations. I've got to send

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:33

some information out today. I love Yes. And my hairdresser

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:39

today she goes, I don't know you're going to send me this

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:41

stuff. And I'm actually when I finished this, I'm going down to

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:45

drop her some water. And tell the the other hairdresser that

Donna Karpeles: 00:40:50

said the one that owns the business, about the Nessebar

Claire Markwick: 00:40:54

absolutely get those in this was in the cell,

Claire Markwick: 00:40:57

oh my god, everyone is going to be loving their hair.

Donna Karpeles: 00:41:01

You know, they're just going to be they

Donna Karpeles: 00:41:03

can do it as a spa treatment for their hair. So anyway, look.

Donna Karpeles: 00:41:08

Trust your instincts. Because if you don't, you're just gonna be

Donna Karpeles: 00:41:12

sitting back there on the couch, just go on. And then on your

Donna Karpeles: 00:41:17

deathbed, you'll just say, Oh, I wish I had done this or I wish I

Donna Karpeles: 00:41:21

had done that. Because that's how I was and no more not. Now.

Claire Markwick: 00:41:28

Instead of spending that 50 bucks a week on

Claire Markwick: 00:41:30

alcohol to drown your sorrows and numb all that out. You're

Claire Markwick: 00:41:35

repaying your you're repaying your investment in yourself,

Claire Markwick: 00:41:39

your health, your wealth. And and let's face it your next

Claire Markwick: 00:41:42

generation because you've led the way you've shown the courage

Claire Markwick: 00:41:45

you've gone first, that's going to rub off on your daughter

Claire Markwick: 00:41:49

that's gonna rub off on her son, and that's gonna rub off on all

Claire Markwick: 00:41:52

the generations to come. So you're breaking the cycle,

Claire Markwick: 00:41:55

because you're the one who was brave enough to go first. And I

Claire Markwick: 00:41:57

love that.

Donna Karpeles: 00:41:58

Yeah, and you know, we're water snobs. We

Donna Karpeles: 00:42:01

really aren't that water. Like, you. That smells horrible. I

Donna Karpeles: 00:42:10

just can't drink it. Now, water snob, apparently, there's coffee

Donna Karpeles: 00:42:15

snobs, and you'll be even more a coffee snob.

Claire Markwick: 00:42:18

When you make it with the water. Yeah, with

Claire Markwick: 00:42:20

your coffee or tea.

Donna Karpeles: 00:42:21

You'll never have tap water in your jug

Donna Karpeles: 00:42:23

again. Oh my god. It's so funny plays. If anything, just just

Donna Karpeles: 00:42:30

have a look. It doesn't cost you anything to look. It doesn't

Donna Karpeles: 00:42:34

cost you anything to ask. And that's what I did. I pasted it

Donna Karpeles: 00:42:38

first. And then I talked. And I talked and I kept having an

Donna Karpeles: 00:42:45

honorarium. And then I went up. I'm doing this. So do it. Yeah.

Claire Markwick: 00:42:50

Love it. Donna, thank you so much for anyone and

Claire Markwick: 00:42:53

everyone who has resonated with your story. I'll put all your

Claire Markwick: 00:42:55

social links in the show notes to this episode as well so

Claire Markwick: 00:42:58

people can reach out and connect with you. And I'm sure you'll be

Claire Markwick: 00:43:02

alright with that.

Donna Karpeles: 00:43:03

Yeah. Thanks. i Yeah,

Claire Markwick: 00:43:07

I love it. I absolutely love I love talking

Claire Markwick: 00:43:10

to you. I love hearing your story. I think it's really

Claire Markwick: 00:43:12

inspirational. Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much. Bye, bye.

Claire Markwick: 00:43:20

Isn't she just a delight, like seriously, I

Claire Markwick: 00:43:24

really got to know Donna at our recent retreat in Byron Bay and

Claire Markwick: 00:43:29

we were sat around the pool soaking up the sun and she was

Claire Markwick: 00:43:32

just telling me about her, her younger days, her abusive

Claire Markwick: 00:43:37

relationship, how she, you know, was beaten within an inch of her

Claire Markwick: 00:43:40

life. How she got through that and found her now husband and I

Claire Markwick: 00:43:46

was just like, Oh, my God, you have to share your story and you

Claire Markwick: 00:43:50

have to speak about it more because that is people will

Claire Markwick: 00:43:54

relate to that people. There are people who have been through

Claire Markwick: 00:43:58

similar things to to Donner and and if you are one of those and

Claire Markwick: 00:44:02

you are listening to this, then you know, I know that she would

Claire Markwick: 00:44:04

be happy for you to reach out and and chat things through but

Claire Markwick: 00:44:08

I just absolutely love her attitude. Now I love so much

Claire Markwick: 00:44:13

about everything that she shared. And I think it's really

Claire Markwick: 00:44:16

really relatable particularly to women in their 60s. You know, I

Claire Markwick: 00:44:19

see that as my mom's generation. We just we I'm not there yet.

Claire Markwick: 00:44:24

You get in a place of well, this is just it now you know, this is

Claire Markwick: 00:44:30

this is where I'm at. It's too late to try anything new. I just

Claire Markwick: 00:44:33

have to you know make the best of where I'm at. And what I love

Claire Markwick: 00:44:36

about Donna and her story is that she hasn't settled for that

Claire Markwick: 00:44:41

she's she's still looking for opportunities and and something

Claire Markwick: 00:44:46

that started off in the more practical space of helping her

Claire Markwick: 00:44:51

body get back to a natural flow state has now emerged has now

Claire Markwick: 00:44:57

emerged that's the wrong word. What's the word I'm looking for,

Claire Markwick: 00:45:02

flowed into something that is going to earn her an income as

Claire Markwick: 00:45:06

well and means that she doesn't have to work a nine to five

Claire Markwick: 00:45:10

until she's 7075 years old in order to pay the mortgage. And I

Claire Markwick: 00:45:14

think that's just absolutely fabulous. I think what I love

Claire Markwick: 00:45:20

about this business is the fact that we all go into it for

Claire Markwick: 00:45:24

whatever practical reason we go into it. For donner, it was

Claire Markwick: 00:45:27

health. For me, it was an extra income on the side. But what we

Claire Markwick: 00:45:31

soon discover very, very quickly is that there is so much inner

Claire Markwick: 00:45:36

work that comes from being an entrepreneur and having your own

Claire Markwick: 00:45:40

business, and we are 110% supported in that space as well.

Claire Markwick: 00:45:44

And doing that inner work allows us to shine even brighter to

Claire Markwick: 00:45:49

impact even more lives, impact, even more people feel better

Claire Markwick: 00:45:54

within ourselves, that ripples into our close relationships and

Claire Markwick: 00:45:57

our families, I just can you just love the comment where

Claire Markwick: 00:46:01

Donna shared how her husband made reference to the fact that

Claire Markwick: 00:46:04

she looked good. I think that is so so beautiful. And when we

Claire Markwick: 00:46:08

like I said at the time, when we start loving on ourselves, when

Claire Markwick: 00:46:11

we start appreciating ourselves, it allows other people to

Claire Markwick: 00:46:16

appreciate us too. So so so good, I trust you got oodles and

Claire Markwick: 00:46:21

oodles of value out of that episode. And something that she

Claire Markwick: 00:46:25

spoke about a lot was the power of the discovery process and

Claire Markwick: 00:46:30

answering really quite confronting questions as to what

Claire Markwick: 00:46:35

it actually is that we want. And this is something I talk about a

Claire Markwick: 00:46:38

lot, you know, it's really, really easy to talk about all

Claire Markwick: 00:46:41

the things in our lives that we don't enjoy, and that aren't how

Claire Markwick: 00:46:44

we want them to be. But when it comes to talking about things

Claire Markwick: 00:46:48

that we want instead, that's where many of us are stumped. So

Claire Markwick: 00:46:52

if that's you, and and you're curious about what this

Claire Markwick: 00:46:55

discovery process looks like, and how you can be a part of it,

Claire Markwick: 00:46:59

and how you can go through it, then just reach out. And and

Claire Markwick: 00:47:02

I'll let you know, at the end of the day, it doesn't even you

Claire Markwick: 00:47:05

don't even need to go into this business to do to do that

Claire Markwick: 00:47:08

process. Yeah, that's a valuable step to do on its own. And if

Claire Markwick: 00:47:11

you decide Well, no, I don't want to I don't want to go into

Claire Markwick: 00:47:14

high ticket affiliate marketing and and forefinger commissions

Claire Markwick: 00:47:18

from posting on my socials, I want to I don't want to do that

Claire Markwick: 00:47:20

I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing, that's fine. But you've

Claire Markwick: 00:47:23

still opened your eyes to something, you've still created

Claire Markwick: 00:47:28

new neural pathways, you still started to articulate the life

Claire Markwick: 00:47:32

that you want. And when you can actually articulate something,

Claire Markwick: 00:47:36

you can have it because you begin to see opportunities that

Claire Markwick: 00:47:40

you couldn't see before because those pathways in your brain

Claire Markwick: 00:47:42

were just closed off. So it's an incredibly valuable, valuable

Claire Markwick: 00:47:47

process. And I would encourage anybody who is not feeling 110%

Claire Markwick: 00:47:52

content with their life right now to to go through it and

Claire Markwick: 00:47:56

answer their questions and get some clarity on where you want

Claire Markwick: 00:47:59

to take your life and what sort of vehicle you're going to need

Claire Markwick: 00:48:02

to look for in order to get there. All right, that is enough

Claire Markwick: 00:48:07

for me all of Donna's contact details are going to be in the

Claire Markwick: 00:48:10

show notes to this episode, along with all of mine, and a

Claire Markwick: 00:48:17

link to my fierce woman rising masterclass or you can message

Claire Markwick: 00:48:21

me and I will send you a link to that masterclass message me the

Claire Markwick: 00:48:25

word masterclass Donna, and I will send you the link to that

Claire Markwick: 00:48:30

class. It will tell you all about high ticket affiliate

Claire Markwick: 00:48:32

marketing, what we do, why we do it, why we love it, how we do at

Claire Markwick: 00:48:36

how much we earn and how you can get into that discovery process

Claire Markwick: 00:48:40

and start exploring for yourself. Okay, thank you so

Claire Markwick: 00:48:45

much for lending me your ears. I will be back with you for

Claire Markwick: 00:48:47

another episode next week. And until then, bye bye